This episode explores the resurgence of bullish sentiment in the crypto market, marked by Bitcoin surpassing $100,000 and Ethereum experiencing double-digit gains, despite persistent high interest rates and tariff concerns. Against the backdrop of steady Fed rates and Trump's mixed commentary on monetary policy, the hosts debate whether the market is truly out of the bear phase, noting gold's all-time highs as a sign of global instability. More significantly, the discussion pivots to Apple's App Store policy changes, potentially opening doors for crypto applications by allowing direct crypto payments and NFT integration, a move celebrated as a win against centralized control. As the conversation evolves, the hosts analyze Ethereum's Pectra upgrade, highlighting increased blob space for Layer 2 scaling and account abstraction improvements for user experience, while also advocating for Layer 1 scaling to improve transaction speeds. Emerging industry patterns reflected in Coinbase's acquisition of Deribit to offer crypto derivatives to US citizens, and the US government's potential embrace of $2 trillion in stablecoins, signal a maturing crypto landscape despite regulatory hurdles and meme coin distractions.