In this episode of the Pragmatic Engineer Podcast, Gergely Orosz interviews Kent Beck, a pioneer of TDD and one of the authors of the Agile Manifesto, about his experiences with AI coding tools, the creation of the Agile Manifesto and Extreme Programming, and the evolution of TDD. Beck shares his analogy of AI tools as unpredictable "genies" and discusses how they've impacted his coding practices, making him more productive and allowing him to tackle more ambitious projects. He reflects on the early days of Agile and XP, his time at Facebook, and the importance of experimentation in software development. The conversation also explores the nuances of TDD, its role in managing anxiety, and its continued relevance in the age of AI.
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