Shaan and Sam discuss the La Boo Boo doll craze, its origins, and the company behind it, PopMart, including the factors contributing to its viral success, such as celebrity endorsements and the "lipstick effect." They then transition to Tony's Chocolonely, highlighting its ethical sourcing and the founders' commitment to combating child labor. The conversation shifts to recidivism, with Sam sharing insights from his involvement with The Last Mile program. They also touch on personal stories, including Shaan's embarrassing prison experience and Sam's intention to shift away from pursuing money-making ventures at 40, focusing instead on artistic pursuits and social impact.
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