The AI-native startup: 5 products, 7-figure revenue, 100% AI-written code | Dan Shipper (co-founder/CEO of Every) | Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career

In this interview, Lenny Rachitsky speaks with Dan Shipper, CEO of Avery, about leveraging AI in business. Dan shares his contrarian views on AI, including its potential to reshore American jobs and the underutilization of Claude Code by non-coders. He details how Avery operates at the cutting edge of AI, with engineers not manually coding and a dedicated AI operations head. Dan emphasizes the importance of CEOs using AI to drive adoption within companies and introduces the concept of the "allocation economy," where management skills become more valuable. He also touches on the company's unique "Sip Seed Round" fundraising approach, balancing growth with creative freedom. The conversation covers AI tools, team operations, product development, and the future of work in an AI-first world.

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The AI-native startup: 5 products, 7-figure revenue, 100% AI-written code | Dan Shipper (co-founder/CEO of Every)

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career

AI's Potential Impact on Job Reshoring and Optimistic Outlooks

Claude Code's Underrated Potential for Non-Coders and the Future of AI Interfaces

Defining AGI, AI's Impact on Skills, and the Importance of Context Engineering

The "Don't Repeat Yourself" Philosophy and the Role of AI Operations

AI Tool Stack and the Concept of Compounding Engineering

The Accelerated Learning Curve with AI and the Future of Software Development

Building Products at the Edge of AI and the Sip Seed Funding Model

The Consulting Arm and the Key to Successful AI Adoption in Companies

The Allocation Economy and the Value of Generalists in the AI Era

Book and Movie Recommendations, Life Motto, and the Importance of Writing

Closing Remarks and How to Connect

The AI-native startup: 5 products, 7-figure revenue, 100% AI-written code | Dan Shipper (co-founder/CEO of Every)

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career

00:00AI's Potential Impact on Job Reshoring and Optimistic Outlooks

AI's Potential Impact on Job Reshoring and Optimistic Outlooks

07:08Claude Code's Underrated Potential for Non-Coders and the Future of AI Interfaces

Claude Code's Underrated Potential for Non-Coders and the Future of AI Interfaces

14:34Defining AGI, AI's Impact on Skills, and the Importance of Context Engineering

Defining AGI, AI's Impact on Skills, and the Importance of Context Engineering

24:06The "Don't Repeat Yourself" Philosophy and the Role of AI Operations

The "Don't Repeat Yourself" Philosophy and the Role of AI Operations

35:36AI Tool Stack and the Concept of Compounding Engineering

AI Tool Stack and the Concept of Compounding Engineering

47:41The Accelerated Learning Curve with AI and the Future of Software Development

The Accelerated Learning Curve with AI and the Future of Software Development

57:25Building Products at the Edge of AI and the Sip Seed Funding Model

Building Products at the Edge of AI and the Sip Seed Funding Model

1:08:21The Consulting Arm and the Key to Successful AI Adoption in Companies

The Consulting Arm and the Key to Successful AI Adoption in Companies

1:17:03The Allocation Economy and the Value of Generalists in the AI Era

The Allocation Economy and the Value of Generalists in the AI Era

1:25:41Book and Movie Recommendations, Life Motto, and the Importance of Writing

Book and Movie Recommendations, Life Motto, and the Importance of Writing

1:34:32Closing Remarks and How to Connect

Closing Remarks and How to Connect