Anthropic co-founder on quitting OpenAI, AGI predictions, $100M talent wars, 20% unemployment, and the nightmare scenarios keeping him up at night | Ben Mann

In this interview, Lenny interviews Ben Mann, co-founder of Anthropic, about the future of AI, AI safety, and its impact on jobs and society. Ben discusses the recruiting battles for AI researchers, why he left OpenAI, and the timeline for achieving AGI, along with the economic implications, such as potential unemployment increases. He emphasizes the importance of AI safety and alignment, detailing Anthropic's approach, including Constitutional AI. Ben also shares personal insights on preparing for an AI-driven future, the need for curiosity and kindness, and Anthropic's mission to ensure AI benefits humanity. He touches on the technical aspects of AI development, such as scaling laws and the shift to Reinforcement Learning from AI Feedback (RLAIF).