In this episode of Freakonomics Radio, Stephen Dubner interviews former Secretary of State Antony Blinken, focusing on his background, his views on international relations, and his tenure in the Biden administration. Blinken shares personal stories from his family history that shaped his worldview, particularly regarding the persecution of Jewish people and the importance of America as a beacon of hope. The conversation covers complex issues such as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the roles of Iran, China, and Russia in global politics, and the challenges facing the State Department. Blinken also reflects on the importance of American leadership, the value of foreign aid, and the need for enlightened self-interest in foreign policy, while expressing concerns about rising political partisanship and dehumanization.
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