Tim Miller interviews Thomas Chatterton Williams, an Atlantic staff writer, about his new book and current events. They discuss the Kimmel situation, right-wing cancel culture, and statements made by JD Vance regarding stifling speech. They explore the weaponization of the Justice Department, the desire for authoritarianism among some Americans, and the resentment that fueled the backlash against woke culture. They also discuss the Obama era, identity politics, and the state of campus politics, including the situation at Texas A&M. Finally, they briefly touch on social media's impact and basketball before concluding the interview.
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