This podcast features an interview with Barbara Tversky, a professor of psychology, exploring the interplay between spatial thinking, action, language, and cognition. The conversation covers Tversky's nine laws of cognition, highlighting how movement shapes thought and how language influences our thinking processes. Specific examples include studies demonstrating how gestures aid memory and how creating visual explanations improves learning compared to verbal ones. Listeners gain insights into how to improve communication and learning by incorporating visual aids and perspective-taking, ultimately leading to more effective knowledge acquisition and problem-solving. The discussion also touches upon the limitations of relying solely on learned abstractions versus the benefits of earning knowledge through direct experience.