Sam Callahan sat down with Matthew Pines @matthew_pines and Natalie Smolenski @NSmolenski to discuss Bitcoin and the growing surveillance state, the current status of China-US relations, and why the battle for control over networks will be a key story in the coming decade.

Timestamps:
00:00:00 “Swan Signal” Intro
00:01:53 Introducing Natalie and Matt
00:02:19 Bitcoin Conference 2023 Recap
00:07:53 Emerging Presidential Candidates Speaking about Bitcoin
00:14:10 The Restrict Act and the Amplification of Digital Surveillance 00:20:20 Central Bank Digital Currencies
00:27:13 Why America Shouldn’t Allow CBDC’s
00:32:55 Bridging the Relationship between America and China
00:41:18 How Bitcoin Can Help Play a Role in Minimizing Trust Between Nation-States
00:48:17 Why is having a Centralized Mega-Bank a Threat to National Security?
00:58:00 How to Connect with Natalie and Matt
01:00:38 “Swan Signal” Outro

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Matthew Pines & Natalie Smolenski | Swan Signal | EP 110

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