Can Democrats Fight Trump Without Being Defined by Him? (with Gov. JB Pritzker)

In this episode of Pod Save America, Jon Lovett interviews Illinois Governor JB Pritzker, covering a range of topics including bipartisan efforts among governors, the influence of Trump on the Republican party, and the potential for Illinois to engage in redistricting based on actions taken by other states. Pritzker shares his views on immigration policy, balancing border security with the need for a generous immigration system, and the economic benefits of immigration. They discuss the Democratic Party's messaging struggles on affordability and the need to focus on issues like raising the minimum wage. Pritzker also reflects on his personal background, including the influence of his parents and his experiences with loss, and how these factors have shaped his political values. The conversation also touches on lighter subjects such as Star Wars rankings and Pritzker's recent blackjack winnings, ending with a discussion on the importance of addressing everyday economic concerns to win elections.