In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi speak with Santiago Siri, founder of Democracy Earth, DemocracyOS, and Proof of Humanity, to explore a central question of the digital age:
Can we escape politics with protocols or do protocols simply create new political arenas?

Santiago shares his journey from building Argentina's internet political party Partido de la Red, to creating open-source democratic infrastructure, to running one of the most ambitious on-chain identity and governance experiments in Web3.
They discuss identity as the core bottleneck of digital democracy, governance failures inside protocols, DAOs as political systems, AI as both promise and threat, and what Network Nations must learn from a decade of real-world experimentation.

A deep, honest conversation about legitimacy, power, and why politics never disappears it just moves layers.

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⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 – Can protocols help us escape politics?
01:00 – Introducing Santiago Siri
02:15 – From activism to political parties
04:10 – Partido de la Red & proxy voting
06:40 – Using technology to modernize democracy
09:00 – DemocracyOS & global adoption
10:45 – Why political systems resist change
12:10 – The limits of centralized digital voting
14:15 – Why identity is the core problem
15:45 – Leaving politics to build infrastructure
17:50 – Democracy Earth & global pilots
20:00 – Bitcoin vs Ethereum for governance
22:00 – The birth of Proof of Humanity
24:20 – Early identity failures & attacks
26:40 – One person, one vote challenges
29:55 – Proof of Humanity mechanics explained
32:10 – UBI, incentives & DAO governance
34:40 – Delegation farming & power struggles
36:25 – Quadratic delegation as a fix
38:25 – Removing founders from power
40:25 – Identity, justice & money tensions
42:00 – AI breaks video-based identity
44:05 – Worldcoin & biometric approaches
46:30 – Protocols still create politics
48:30 – AI governance experiments
50:25 – Why AI is still unsafe for governance
52:25 – Centralized compute as a risk
54:15 – Who governs the governance layer?
56:40 – Proof of Humanity as a proto–Network Nation
58:40 – What's missing for real Network Nations
01:00:45 – Shared identity & legitimacy
01:02:55 – Lessons from 10 years of experimentation
01:04:40 – Final lesson: legitimacy is enacted, not declared
01:07:30 – Where to follow Santiago & closing

NN Ep:12 From politics to protocols to protocol politics with Santiago Siri

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