"The code that we have is a liability. The system is the asset we're building."

Chad Fowler, VC at Blue Yard Capital and former CTO at Wunderlist, sits down with Guy Podjarny to discuss the Phoenix Architecture: software designed to be replaced rather than maintained.

In this episode:
• why was the code written by Chad never longer than a page
• how he replaced 70% of a codebase in 3 months and cut costs by 75%
• shipping AI code no human ever reviewed, and how to make it safe
• the shadow specs your agents are making without you
• why your system should work with the worst LLM, not just the best

If you're still thinking about your codebase the old way, this one will change that.

Connect with us here:

Chad Fowler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fowlerchad/
Blue Yard Capital: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blueyard-capital/
Guy Podjarny: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/guypo
Tessl: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/

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