Joe Hudson is a coach who works with the executives building AGI at OpenAI.

From inside OpenAI, he witnesses the full spectrum of human emotion that comes with bringing something new into the world—the exhilaration, the terror, the weight of it all. He feels these emotions, too: He believes AI will eventually replace what he does as a coach.

But instead of fixating on that fear, Hudson is asking a deeper question: Who is he becoming in the meantime? He believes that moments like this—when we can feel the ground quiver—can be powerful catalysts for transformation, but only if we’re willing to face the uncertainty they bring.

In this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sits down with Hudson to talk about how he’s answering that question. They get into what happens when the thing you’ve built your life around might disappear, how to find who you are beneath your professional identity, and why Hudson believes intention is the key to growing with AI.

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Timestamps:

Introduction: 00:01:49
What it feels like inside the room where AGI is being built: 00:03:14
The most important question to ask yourself as AGI approaches: 00:08:15
The importance of sitting with uncertainty: 00:17:49
How Joe is preparing his daughters for a post-AGI world: 00:21:11
How we think, feel, and react; the three layers of human awareness: 00:27:25
Staying grounded while coaching the people shaping our future: 00:35:34
Why Joe doesn’t take things personally—even when the stakes are high: 00:42:44

Links to resources mentioned in the episode:

Inside OpenAI: Coaching the People Creating AGI | Joe Hudson, Founder of The Art of Accomplishment

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Inside OpenAI: Coaching the People Creating AGI | Joe Hudson, Founder of The Art of Accomplishment