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The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
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Abolish the Senate. End the Electoral College. Pack the Court.

The Next Parenting Trend Starts Before Conception

The DOGE Alum Asking if Foreign Aid Is America’s Problem

What if the Government Believes in U.F.O.s More Than You Do?

She Exposed Epstein, and Shares MAGA’s Anger
The podcast explores the story of Jeffrey Epstein, focusing on how he was able to get away with his crimes for so long. Julie K. Brown, who brought Epstein’s story into the public eye with her reporting for the Miami Herald, discusses Epstein's plea deal, his connections, and the official narrative surrounding his crim...

Is ‘Toxic Empathy’ Pulling Christians to the Left?

Israel’s Moral Balance Beam

Why Trump’s Blood-and-Guts Strategy Worked

A Mind-Bending Conversation with Peter Thiel
In this episode of "Interesting Times," Ross Douthat interviews Peter Thiel, co-founder of PayPal and Palantir, about his "stagnation thesis," which argues that technological progress has slowed significantly since the mid-20th century. They discuss whether recent advancements like AI are enough to overcome this stagna...

The Progressive Regulator Winning Over the Populist Right

Trump’s Future Depends on His Immigration Crackdown

What Makes Art ‘Left Wing’?

How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart
In this episode of "Interesting Times," Ross Douthat interviews sociologist Dr. Alice Evans about the global fertility collapse. They discuss the rapidly declining birth rates across the world, the economic and social implications of an aging population, and the potential causes behind this phenomenon. Dr. Evans argues...

JD Vance on His Faith and Trump’s Most Controversial Policies
In this episode of "Interesting Times," Ross Douthat interviews Vice President JD Vance in Rome, the day after the papal inauguration. They discuss the intersection of Vance's Catholic faith and his political views, particularly regarding economics, pro-life issues, and family policy. The conversation explores the tens...

An Interview With the Herald of the Apocalypse

The Democratic Senator Taking Cues From Trumpism
This episode explores the challenges facing the Democratic Party in the current political landscape, particularly in light of Donald Trump's second term and the perceived threat to American democracy. Senator Chris Murphy argues that the Democratic Party was unprepared for a more assertive Trump administration and need...

The New Culture of the Right: Vital, Masculine and Intentionally Offensive

Can the Catholic Church Quit the Culture Wars?

What if There’s No Way to Stop Trump’s Approach to Power?
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