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The Verge · Technology

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Anthropic doesn't trust the Pentagon, and neither should you

12 Mar 2026
48m
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The conversation centers on mass surveillance, focusing on the legal and ethical implications of government surveillance programs, particularly in the context of AI. Mike Masnick, founder of TechDirt, explains how interpretations of laws like the Patriot Act and Executive Order 12333 have expanded the scope of surveill...

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Hasbro's CEO lets AI Peppa Pig help design toys

09 Mar 2026
1h 12m
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Prediction markets want to be the news

05 Mar 2026
45m
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Zillow's CEO on growth during a housing crisis

02 Mar 2026
1h 5m
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Zillow's CEO Jeremy Wacksman discusses the evolution of Zillow from a real estate listing app to a transaction-focused platform and the complexities of navigating the real estate database system. He emphasizes Zillow's reliance on MLSs, which provide commoditized listing data, and the company's need to differentiate th...

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Inside Xbox's executive shakeup

26 Feb 2026
43m
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Hank Green lets loose on YouTube, billionaires, and algorithms

23 Feb 2026
1h 11m
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Complexly's transition to a nonprofit structure is driven by a desire to maximize impact over revenue in online education. Hank Green discusses with Nilay Patel the limitations of YouTube's commercial incentives, which often prioritize low-budget, attention-grabbing content over high-quality educational material. Green...

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

19 Feb 2026
41m
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The AI talent war and its impact on the tech labor market is explored, focusing on the motivations behind AI researchers' job moves and the evolving strategies of AI companies. Ideology and personal mission, rather than solely monetary incentives, drive many researchers to switch companies, often making dramatic announ...

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Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

16 Feb 2026
27m
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The Decoder podcast explores the controversy surrounding Ring's Search Party commercial and the broader implications of its surveillance technology. It questions Ring's partnership with law enforcement and Flock Safety, particularly regarding ICE access to data. Ring founder Jamie Siminoff defends the company's mission...

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The surprising case for AI judges

12 Feb 2026
1h 13m
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The podcast explores the potential role of AI in legal dispute resolution, moving beyond research to actual decision-making. Bridget McCormack, former Chief Justice of the Michigan Supreme Court and now CEO of the American Arbitration Association, discusses the AI Arbitrator, an AI-assisted platform for resolving const...

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Siemens CEO's mission to automate everything

09 Feb 2026
1h 2m
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Siemens' CEO Roland Bush discusses the company's ongoing transformation, driven by technology and AI, and its role in automating various industries. Siemens aims to transform the everyday for everyone by providing technology that enables others to automate their processes. Bush explains Siemens' organizational structur...

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

05 Feb 2026
48m
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The podcast explores the challenges of labeling AI-generated content to maintain trust in digital media, focusing on the C2PA metadata standard. Jess Weatherbed, a Verge reporter, explains C2PA's origins, its intended function of embedding content credentials, and its limitations. The discussion highlights the lack of ...

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Docusign's CEO on the dangers of trusting AI to read, and write, your contracts

02 Feb 2026
1h 5m
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DocuSign's CEO Allan Thygesen discusses the company's evolution from online signature platform to a comprehensive agreement management service. Thygesen emphasizes DocuSign's role in verifying identity and consent, highlighting its integration with various identity validation technologies. He notes the company's shift ...

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Netflix is eating Hollywood — because it has to

29 Jan 2026
55m
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The central question revolves around why Netflix is pursuing the acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD), despite its historical mismanagement and the contrasting trend of platforms reducing content costs. Julia Alexander, media correspondent at Puck News, explains that Netflix needs big IP and a vast library to in...

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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'We're not Palantir'

26 Jan 2026
1h 9m
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Experian's CEO of Technology and Software Solutions, Alex Lintner, discusses data, AI, consumer trust, and security with Nilay Patel. Lintner emphasizes Experian's role in providing information, not making decisions, to facilitate access to credit, healthcare, and automotive services. He highlights the company's commit...

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Why nobody's stopping Grok

22 Jan 2026
1h 5m
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The conversation centers on the controversy surrounding Grok, an AI chatbot on the X platform, capable of generating non-consensual intimate images. Riana Pfefferkorn, Policy Fellow at the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence, discusses the legal frameworks, potential actions by regulators, and...

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Razer CEO on AI in game dev, Grok, and anime waifus

19 Jan 2026
1h 4m
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Razer CEO Min-Liang Tan discusses the company's significant investment in AI and its vision for the future of gaming. A key point of contention is the gaming community's hostility towards AI, particularly generative AI "slop," which contrasts with Razer's belief in AI as a tool to augment game development. Tan addresse...

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Rewind: How private equity kills companies and communities

15 Jan 2026
51m
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CEO Sam Reich on the business of subscription comedy

12 Jan 2026
1h 4m
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What’s next for Netflix and Paramount in the Warner Bros. battle

22 Dec 2025
43m
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This episode of Channels features Peter Kafka interviewing Lucas Shaw from Bloomberg about the potential acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery by either Paramount/Skydance or Netflix. They discuss the complexities of the bidding war, including the potential influence of Donald Trump and the regulatory scrutiny involved...

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"All chaos and panic": Nilay answers your burning Decoder questions

18 Dec 2025
56m
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