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The Verge · Technology

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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The good, the bad, and the future of AI agents

02 Oct 2025
46m
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Hayden Field interviews David Hershey from Anthropic about the current state and future of AI agents, focusing on Anthropic's new Claude Sonnet 4.5 model. Hershey discusses the model's capabilities, particularly in coding, and its potential impact on various industries, including law. He also addresses the limitations ...

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Ford CEO Jim Farley on China, tariffs, and the quest for a $30,000 EV

29 Sep 2025
1h 3m
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Joanna Stern interviews Jim Farley, the CEO of Ford, discussing Ford's new EV platform aimed at competing with Chinese manufacturers like BYD. Farley addresses challenges such as tariff costs, the need for affordable EVs, and the importance of American manufacturing and blue-collar jobs. He also answers questions about...

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How AI safety took a backseat to military money

25 Sep 2025
42m
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In this episode of Decoder, Hayden Field interviews Heidy Khlaaf, Chief AI Scientist at the AI Now Institute, about the shift in the AI industry towards military applications. They discuss the ethical implications of companies like OpenAI and Anthropic partnering with the defense sector, the potential risks of using co...

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Dropout CEO Sam Reich on business, comedy, and keeping culture weird

22 Sep 2025
1h 6m
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How chatbots — and their makers — are enabling AI psychosis

18 Sep 2025
50m
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In this episode of Decoder, Hayden Field, The Verge's senior AI reporter, interviews Kashmir Hill, a New York Times reporter, about the mental health effects of AI chatbots. They discuss instances of AI-induced psychosis and suicidal ideation linked to chatbot use, highlighting cases where individuals developed delusio...

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How brands and creators are fighting for your attention — and your money

15 Sep 2025
1h 1m
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In this episode of Decoder, guest host Hank Green interviews Amy Lanzi, CEO of Digitas, a modern marketing agency, to demystify the world of digital advertising. They discuss the shift from traditional advertising to personalized, data-driven marketing strategies, and how agencies like Digitas help brands understand an...

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Sierra CEO Bret Taylor on why the AI bubble feels like the dotcom boom

11 Sep 2025
51m
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In this episode of Decoder, Alex Heath interviews Bret Taylor, CEO of AI startup Sierra and chairman of OpenAI, about Sierra's AI agents for customer support and the broader AI landscape. Taylor discusses Sierra's outcome-based business model, focusing on AI agents that autonomously resolve customer issues, and the com...

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Sal Khan is hopeful that AI won't destroy education

08 Sep 2025
1h 3m
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Hank Green interviews Sal Khan, the founder and CEO of Khan Academy, about the evolution of Khan Academy, its organizational structure as a non-profit, and its approach to integrating AI into education. They discuss Khan's decision to remain a non-profit, the challenges and benefits of working with school districts, an...

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The quest to keep OpenAI honest

04 Sep 2025
40m
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Alex Heath interviews Catherine Bracey and Orson Ayalad from Eyes on OpenAI about the controversy surrounding OpenAI's nonprofit status and its attempted restructuring. The discussion covers the history and original intent of OpenAI's nonprofit structure, the legal and monetary benefits it has enjoyed, and the potentia...

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Rewind: Bookshop CEO's crusade to save books from Amazon

28 Aug 2025
1h 7m
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Is ChatGPT killing higher education?

25 Aug 2025
57m
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This episode of "The Gray Area," hosted by Sean Illing, features James Walsh, a features writer for New York magazine, discussing the impact of AI tools like ChatGPT on higher education. Walsh shares insights from his interviews with students and professors, revealing a landscape of widespread AI usage in academic work...

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Amazon is betting on agents to win the AI race

21 Aug 2025
53m
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In this episode of Decoder, Alex Heath interviews David Luan, head of Amazon's AGI Research Lab, about the current state and future direction of AI, particularly focusing on the development of AI agents. Luan discusses his background at OpenAI and Adept, his current work at Amazon, and his vision for AGI as a universal...

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How the head of Obsidian went from superfan to CEO

18 Aug 2025
54m
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In this episode of Decoder, Casey Newton interviews Steph Ango, the CEO of Obsidian, a note-taking and productivity app. Ango describes Obsidian as a personal Wikipedia where users create links between notes, fostering a web of knowledge. He highlights Obsidian's unique features, such as storing files locally in Markdo...

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ChatGPT chief Nick Turley doesn't want you too attached to AI

14 Aug 2025
55m
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In this episode of Decoder, Alex Heath interviews Nick Turley, head of ChatGPT at OpenAI, about the recent rollout of GPT-5 and the unexpected backlash from users who missed the previous model, 4o. They discuss OpenAI's plans to bring back 4.0 and implement a deprecation schedule for future models. The conversation exp...

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Notion's CEO wants you to demand better from your tools

11 Aug 2025
55m
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In this episode of Decoder, Casey Newton interviews Ivan Zhao, the co-founder and CEO of Notion, about his philosophy on productivity and the evolution of Notion. Zhao describes Notion as an all-in-one productivity software and compares it to Lego blocks, emphasizing its customizability and ability to consolidate vario...

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GitHub's CEO says AI coding is ‘here to stay’

07 Aug 2025
1h 1m
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In this episode of Decoder, Alex Heath interviews Thomas Dohmke, the CEO of GitHub, about the evolving landscape of AI coding. They discuss the rise of "vibe coding," where individuals can create applications without deep coding knowledge, and debate timelines for when AI will write the majority of code. Dohmke emphasi...

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Why tech is racing to adopt AI coding

04 Aug 2025
59m
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In this episode of Decoder, Casey Newton interviews Michael Truell, the CEO of Anysphere, about Cursor AI, an automated programming platform that integrates with generative AI models to help write code. Truell discusses the origins of Cursor, its functionality as a "souped-up word processor" for engineers, and its evol...

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How AI researchers are getting paid like NBA All-Stars

31 Jul 2025
43m
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In this episode of Decoder, Alex Heath interviews Hayden Field, The Verge's senior AI reporter, about the intense talent war in the AI industry. They discuss the unprecedented hiring practices of Big Tech companies like Meta, Google, and Amazon, focusing on the massive compensation packages offered to top AI researcher...

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Can we ever trust an AI lawyer?

28 Jul 2025
54m
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In this episode of Decoder, Jon Fortt interviews Richard Robinson, the CEO of Robin AI, about the application of AI in the legal industry. Robinson discusses how Robin AI is evolving from parsing legal contracts to offering a comprehensive AI-powered legal service, helping businesses navigate legal complexities, unders...

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We are not ready for better deepfakes

24 Jul 2025
1h 0m
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