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Odd Lots

Bloomberg's Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway explore the most interesting topics in finance, markets and economics. Join the conversation every Monday, Thursday, and Friday

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The Movement That Wants Us to Care About AI Model Welfare

30 Oct 2025
50m
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In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, hosts Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway interview Larissa Schiavo from Elios AI about AI consciousness and welfare. They explore the ethical considerations of AI sentience, discussing how to determine if AI systems are conscious and deserving of moral consideration. The conversat...

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Why It's Still So Expensive to Build Homes in America

27 Oct 2025
46m
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In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, hosts Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal interview Brian Potter, author of the Construction Physics newsletter and the book "The Origins of Efficiency," about the lack of productivity gains in the housing construction industry. They discuss why housing construction hasn't become m...

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The Hidden Supply Chain Making Every Menu Feel Familiar

25 Oct 2025
40m
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In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, hosts Tracy Alloway and Joe Wiesenthal interview Austin Frerick, an antitrust and agricultural expert, about Sysco, a dominant food distributor for chain restaurants. They discuss Sysco's history, its impact on food quality and pricing, and its competitive landscape, including m...

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Daniel Yergin on What Happened to the Energy Transition

24 Oct 2025
44m
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In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, hosts Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal interview Dan Yergin, an energy expert and author, about the current state of energy insecurity, the complexities of the energy transition, and the geopolitical factors influencing the oil market. They discuss the challenges of renewable en...

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Why The World Started Hedging Its US Dollar Exposure

23 Oct 2025
46m
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In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, hosts Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal interview Hyun Song-Shin from the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) about the unusual dynamics in the currency markets, particularly the dollar's behavior. They discuss the BIS's triennial survey of FX markets, which highlights a sur...

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Olli Rehn on the Big Competitiveness Challenge Facing Europe

22 Oct 2025
41m
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In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, hosts Tracy Alloway and Joe Wiesenthal interview Olli Rehn, the governor of the Bank of Finland and a governing council member at the ECB, about the economic and political changes in Europe. They discuss topics such as common defense spending, industrial competition with China, ...

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Raghuram Rajan on Surging Gold and Growing Risks to Financial Stability

20 Oct 2025
40m
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In a live episode of the Odd Lots podcast recorded at the Institute for International Finance annual meeting in Washington, D.C., Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway interview Raghuram Rajan, a professor at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business and former head of India's Central Bank. They discuss the reasons...

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Introducing: The Mishal Husain Show

19 Oct 2025
2m
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Mishal Husain introduces her new podcast, "The Mishal Husain Show from Bloomberg Weekend," highlighting her transition from a 20-year career at the BBC covering political debates, international news, and notable figures, to a format that allows for deeper exploration of ideas and conversations with influential people. ...

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A Trip to Alaska With San Fran Fed President Mary Daly

17 Oct 2025
34m
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In a special edition of the Odd Lots podcast, Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal follow Mary Daly, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, on her expedition to Anchorage, Alaska, to understand the U.S. economy better. Daly visits local businesses like Northern Solutions, an oil industry component manufact...

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Why the Trump Administration is Now Taking Equity Stakes in American Companies

16 Oct 2025
46m
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In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, hosts Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway interview Peter Harrell, a nonresident fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and former member of the Biden White House and National Security Council, about the US government's recent investments in companies like Intel a...

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Why Argentina Needs Bailout After Bailout After Bailout

15 Oct 2025
39m
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In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, hosts Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal interview Gregory Makoff, author of "Default," to discuss Argentina's recurring financial crises. The conversation revolves around why Argentina perpetually faces economic instability, despite not being a particularly poor country. Makoff a...

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Andrew Ross Sorkin on the Stock Market Crash That Shattered America

13 Oct 2025
40m
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In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, hosts Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway interview Andrew Ross Sorkin, author of "1929: Inside the Greatest Crash in History and How It Shattered a Nation." Sorkin discusses his motivations for writing the book, the challenges of archival research, and key figures of the era like ...

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John Ganz on the Era When America Was Consumed by Panic With Corporate Japan

10 Oct 2025
47m
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In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, co-hosts Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway interview author and historian John Ganz about the Japan panic of the 1980s and its parallels to current anxieties about China. They discuss the cultural impact, economic factors, and political reactions to Japan's rise, contrasting it w...

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Why the Price of Money Surged in the Last Six Years

09 Oct 2025
42m
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In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, hosts Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal interview Tom Orlik and Jamie Rush from Bloomberg Economics about the neutral rate of interest (r-star). They discuss the concept of r-star, its historical context, and the factors influencing its current and future trajectory. The conversa...

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James van Geelen on the Next Phase of the AI Buildout

06 Oct 2025
38m
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In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal discuss the AI boom with James van Geelen, author of the Citrini newsletter. They explore the infrastructure buildout, focusing on data centers and the companies involved, and analyze whether the AI sector is in a bubble. The conversation covers ...

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Lots More with Joe Abate on the Fed's New Target and the Rising Price of Money

03 Oct 2025
27m
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In this episode of "Lots More," hosts Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal interview Joe Abate, head of macro strategy at SMBC, about the mechanics of how the Federal Reserve raises and lowers interest rates and how that has changed over time. They discuss the Fed's shift from a scarce reserve regime to an abundant reserve...

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Terry Duffy on the CME's Big Push into Retail Trading

02 Oct 2025
57m
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In this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, hosts Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal interview Terry Duffy, the chairman and CEO of CME, about the evolution of trading, the retail revolution, and the partnerships developing between traditional exchanges and retail-oriented platforms. Duffy discusses CME's partnership with F...

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Tarek Mansour on Kalshi's Plan to Create Markets in Everything

01 Oct 2025
44m
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This episode of Odd Lots features an interview with Tarek Mansour, CEO of Kalshi, a prediction market platform. The conversation covers the increasing popularity of prediction markets, Kalshi's regulatory journey, and the differences between Kalshi and competitors like Polymarket. Mansour discusses the legal and ethica...

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The King of Chicago Trading Wants to Build a GPU Market Bigger Than Oil

29 Sep 2025
34m
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In this live episode of the Odd Lots podcast, hosts Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal interview Don Wilson, founder and CEO of DRW, about the future of trading. Wilson discusses his prediction that GPUs will become the world's largest commodity and the efforts to create a liquid market for compute through his companies ...

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Introducing IVF Disrupted: The Kindbody Story

28 Sep 2025
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The podcast "IVF Disrupted, The Kindbody Story" investigates Kindbody, a fertility care company that promised to revolutionize women's health. While it helped some women start families, it also left many patients feeling disillusioned. The series, backed by Bloomberg and iHeart Podcast, explores how Silicon Valley-styl...

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