This interview podcast features Dr. Jordan Peterson discussing his book, "We Who Wrestle With God," and related themes of meaning, relationships, and societal challenges. The conversation begins with Peterson's views on cohabitation before marriage and the detrimental effects of pornography, transitioning into a broader discussion on the importance of meaningful relationships and the role of sacrifice in achieving a fulfilling life. Peterson emphasizes the hierarchical nature of identity and the necessity of confronting difficult truths to build strong relationships. He also highlights the importance of "voluntary self-sacrifice" in navigating life's challenges and finding purpose, contrasting this with the pitfalls of hedonism and the pursuit of easy gratification. The interview concludes with reflections on faith, grief, and the enduring power of human connection.