This a16z podcast episode features an interview with Dr. Clarence B. Jones, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s speechwriter. The conversation begins with Dr. Jones recounting his initial meeting with Dr. King and how he became involved in the Civil Rights Movement. The discussion then shifts to Dr. King's personality, his unwavering faith, and the challenges faced during the movement. Later, the conversation explores how Dr. King might view contemporary issues like diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), with Dr. Jones emphasizing the importance of power and acknowledging historical realities. Finally, the interview concludes with reflections on the legacy of Dr. King and the importance of understanding individual character, a key takeaway from Dr. Jones's experiences.