This podcast interviews Olivia Plotnick, a China expert, about the January 2025 migration of TikTok users to the Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu following a temporary US ban on TikTok. The discussion analyzes the reasons behind this migration, focusing on Xiaohongshu's unique community-building features and contrasting it with WeChat. Plotnick highlights the unexpected cultural exchange, with Chinese users creating English content to assist the "TikTok refugees," and discusses the potential long-term impact on both Chinese and Western creators' platform strategies. The interview also touches upon the broader implications of rising Chinese tech innovation, exemplified by the recent success of the AI app DeepSeek. Plotnick suggests that this event may signal a shift in how Western users perceive and adopt Chinese products and platforms.
