This interview podcast features Terry Glavin interviewing Marc Andreessen about Andreessen's "Techno Optimist Manifesto" and the current state of the tech industry. The conversation begins with a discussion of the manifesto's core tenets, focusing on technological abundance versus potential dystopian outcomes, and then shifts to the pervasive "wokeness" in AI and large language models. Andreessen explains how the alignment problem in AI is primarily a human problem, stemming from biased training data and deliberate manipulation by those involved in the training process, citing the technique of "reinforcement learning by human feedback" (RLHF). Glavin and Andreessen discuss the concerning trend of government and corporate collusion to control AI development, hindering competition and potentially leading to a monolithic, ideologically biased AI landscape. The interview concludes with a discussion of the need for a more open, competitive AI ecosystem and the potential for a shift in this dynamic with the new political administration.