This Ezra Klein Show episode interviews Fareed Zakaria to analyze Donald Trump's foreign policy doctrine. The discussion explores Trump's views on alliances, tariffs, and territorial expansion, contrasting them with traditional international relations theory. Zakaria argues that Trump's approach, while potentially yielding short-term gains, risks fracturing alliances and undermining the established international order. Specific examples include Trump's inconsistent stances on tariffs and his seemingly ambivalent attitude towards Russia's actions in Ukraine. The interview concludes with a discussion on the potential long-term consequences of Trump's policies and the need for a reassessment of the liberal international order.