This TED Business podcast features leadership coach Amy Shoenthal discussing her "setback cycle" framework for navigating career and life reversals. The interview follows Shoenthal's explanation of the four phases—establish, embrace, explore, and emerge—providing actionable advice like using a daily checklist to identify setbacks and leveraging one's network for support. Shoenthal uses her own experiences, including being laid off after finishing her book on setbacks and facing challenges after maternity leave, to illustrate the process. The host, Modupe Akinola, highlights the value of Amy's "alarm clock checklist" which involves tracking daily energy levels to identify areas of engagement and disengagement. Listeners gain a practical framework for turning setbacks into opportunities for reinvention and personal growth.